Kealan Duffy BSc:     hornets look cool

Kim Laughton BSc:    a hornet could kill your children

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it's like a gothic wasp

Kim Laughton BSc:    I know a friend who saw one

Kim Laughton BSc:    apparently they heard it coming and everyone jumped into the swimming pool

Kim Laughton BSc:    and hid under water till it had passed 

Kim Laughton BSc:    that's how cool a hornet is

Kealan Duffy BSc:     actions to avoid hornet attack:

Kealan Duffy BSc:     Disturbing a nest (including vibrations and loud noises)

Being within a few meters or yards of a nest

Disturbing or killing a hornet within a few meters of a nest

Blocking the path of a hornet

Breathing on the nest or hornet

Rapid air movements

Never pour gasoline or petroleum down a nest hole. This is extremely hazardous and environmentally unsound.

Kim Laughton BSc:    there was this video of some hornets going to a wasp hive I think

Kim Laughton BSc:    or bee hive maybe 

Kim Laughton BSc:    but anyway

Kim Laughton BSc:    they killed them all

Kim Laughton BSc:    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v23GFc0KG4c

Kim Laughton BSc:    ok, that's the first thing that comes up on youtube for hornets

Kealan Duffy BSc:     crumbs

Kealan Duffy BSc:     they are rather large

Kim Laughton BSc:    natural born killers 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     this video's great

Kim Laughton BSc:    they are natural

Kim Laughton BSc:    and they are killers

Kim Laughton BSc:    and they kill

Kim Laughton BSc:    bees

Kim Laughton BSc:    but also humans

Kim Laughton BSc:    it's implied 

Kim Laughton BSc:    they didn't kill the cameraman though

Kim Laughton BSc:    maybe it was a camera inside a tank 

Kim Laughton BSc:    or a battleship

Kim Laughton BSc:    or maybe just a satellite, so it was out of range

Kealan Duffy BSc:     "The insects have been seen sipping from discarded soft-drink cans and carrying off lumps of fish and meat from bins and rubbish bags. Local authorities are receiving double the usual number of calls from people asking them to remove hornets’ nests. Between 20 and 40 Japanese die from hornet stings every year, more than the number killed by poisonous snakes."

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah, see, even the Japs die

Kim Laughton BSc:    and they have robots

Kim Laughton BSc:    robots are no protection from hornets

Kealan Duffy BSc:     true

Kealan Duffy BSc:     imagine seeing a hornet carrying a lump of fish

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah

Kim Laughton BSc:    or maybe a chicken leg

Kealan Duffy BSc:     or an eyeball

Kealan Duffy BSc:     "Death by hornet sting is caused by anaphylactic shock, an allergic reaction leading to unconsciousness and breathing failure. “It is a pain that you can never imagine until you have experienced it,” Masato Ono, an entomologist at Tamagawa University, in Tokyo, said. He should know — he has been stung 200 times. “It is profoundly shocking, like a red-hot 15cm nail rammed into your body. I have neve never grown accustomed to the pain.”

Kim Laughton BSc:    I would give him some advice 

Kim Laughton BSc:    I would tell him to stay away from hornets

Kim Laughton BSc:    he could work on a submarine

Kim Laughton BSc:    well

Kim Laughton BSc:    at least until they evolve

Kim Laughton BSc:    which they probably would do when they have finished killing the overland humans

Kim Laughton BSc:    but it would buy him some time

Kim Laughton BSc:    ooh, hornet vs. mantis on youtube!

Kim Laughton BSc:    the hornet had better win

Kealan Duffy BSc:     im sure at one point

Kealan Duffy BSc:     in a lab

Kealan Duffy BSc:     they put hornets in

Kealan Duffy BSc:     with a variety of smallish animals

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and documented the effects

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it would be necessary

Kealan Duffy BSc:     for scientific research

Kim Laughton BSc:    but if one hornet can kill a human

Kim Laughton BSc:    why bother with many hornets

Kim Laughton BSc:    this hornet just stole the mantis' supper 

Kim Laughton BSc:    to dramatic music

Kim Laughton BSc:    ok, I think they just killed the mantis

Kim Laughton BSc:    for good measure

Kim Laughton BSc:    hmm, giant hornet vs. giant hornet 

Kim Laughton BSc:    the final show down

Kealan Duffy BSc:     on Wikipedia is a picture of two fighting

Kealan Duffy BSc:     with a caption saying

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it lasted 15 minutes

Kealan Duffy BSc:     neither was injured

Kim Laughton BSc:    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW4-N87MpMs&mode=related&search=

Kealan Duffy BSc:     wow

Kealan Duffy BSc:     its a proper brawl

Kim Laughton BSc:    The Bee Matrix (Hornets Vs. Bees REMIX)

Kim Laughton BSc:    before youtube I couldn't have seen a remix oh hornets vs. bees

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yea

Kealan Duffy BSc:     newer generations wont appreciate that fact

Kealan Duffy BSc:     they will take such things for granted

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and so do we most of the time

Kim Laughton BSc:    exactly 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and they will have it in high def

Kim Laughton BSc:    so they hornets are actually scary 

Kim Laughton BSc:    not just pixel blobs 

Kim Laughton BSc:    they could crawl right out of the screen

Kim Laughton BSc:    in 3D

Kim Laughton BSc:    and we will be all like 'oh, I don't know about this, what is this technology doing to our children, should they really be watching 3d hornets, maybe it's too real for them, we only had blurry 2d hornets that had to buffer all the time'

Kealan Duffy BSc:     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuMS3KDNysM&NR=1

Kealan Duffy BSc:     not terribly exciting

Kealan Duffy BSc:     but some crazy fear

Kealan Duffy BSc:     there was also one of hornets eating a dead owl time lapsed, so it claimed

Kealan Duffy BSc:     but it was pretty poor

Kim Laughton BSc:    oh

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and not what was promised really

Kealan Duffy BSc:     just lots of shots of the dead owl fast to rock music

Kealan Duffy BSc:     then some hornets making little difference to a random chunk of meat

Kim Laughton BSc:    that's a pity 

Kim Laughton BSc:    people are exploiting the whole hornet thing

Kim Laughton BSc:    and therefore exploiting hornets

Kim Laughton BSc:    hornets that should rightfully be killing the exploiters

Kim Laughton BSc:    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tfaTpBiRXE&NR=1

Kim Laughton BSc:    ah, a British take on the old hornets vs. bees

Kealan Duffy BSc:     haha

Kealan Duffy BSc:     overheating

Kim Laughton BSc:    like your laptop

Kim Laughton BSc:    but cooler 

Kim Laughton BSc:    or hotter 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I cant see how they actually kill them

Kealan Duffy BSc:     they just seem to grapple

Kim Laughton BSc:    they bite their heads off probably 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     the British hornet

Kealan Duffy BSc:     is rather meager

Kim Laughton BSc:    you wouldn't scream if you saw it

Kealan Duffy BSc:     those slow motion hornet shots
are awesome

Kim Laughton BSc:    this is serious stuff

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah

Kim Laughton BSc:    oh wow

Kim Laughton BSc:    fried hornet 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     the bees bundling the hornet

Kealan Duffy BSc:     that's awesome

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and killing it with heat

Kim Laughton BSc:    what would happen if ten thousand bees swarmed around your laptop?

Kim Laughton BSc:    that would be just the same 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I'd hate to be a beekeeper in Japan

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah

Kim Laughton BSc:    but you would have Japanese bees

Kim Laughton BSc:    that could kill hornets 

Kim Laughton BSc:    not British bees

Kim Laughton BSc:    see, this is yet another example why Japan is better than the rest of the world

Kim Laughton BSc:    they have hornets that are as big as shrews

Kim Laughton BSc:    and then bees to kill the hornets

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yea but I'd live in constant fear

Kim Laughton BSc:    true 

Kim Laughton BSc:    http://www.edibleonlineshop.com/shop/browse.php?cmd

=showproduct&productId=13

Kim Laughton BSc:    imagine being a hornet keeper 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and trying to get at their honey

Kealan Duffy BSc:     £24!

Kealan Duffy BSc:     this is a goldmine

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah, a goldmine...

Kim Laughton BSc:    ...full of  HORNETS!

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I'd be a good bee/hornet keeper though

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I wouldn't be stupid like the guy who got stung 200 times

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I'd properly protect myself

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and never get stung

Kim Laughton BSc:    I don't think you could handle hornets

Kim Laughton BSc:    they would eat you for supper 

Kim Laughton BSc:    like the mantis

Kim Laughton BSc:    and its food 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     http://www.vespa-crabro.de/hornets.htm

Kealan Duffy BSc:     some hippy website

Kealan Duffy BSc:     claiming hornets are peaceful

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and should be protected

Kim Laughton BSc:    they are like those people in France

Kim Laughton BSc:    who went along with the Nazis

Kim Laughton BSc:    but the Nazis lost I guess

Kim Laughton BSc:    then they had their heads shaved, according to my GCSE history books

Kim Laughton BSc:    the hornets probably wouldn't lose

Kealan Duffy BSc:     http://www.vespa-crabro.de/grbilder/nase1.htm

Kealan Duffy BSc:     there's one of the hippies

Kim Laughton BSc:    ha

Kim Laughton BSc:    he only has German hornets on him

Kim Laughton BSc:    he needs a Japanese hornet

Kim Laughton BSc:    that would sort his smile out 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and kill him also

Kim Laughton BSc:    he will go off to find them

Kim Laughton BSc:    and then die

Kim Laughton BSc:    and get short mention in a German paper

Kim Laughton BSc:    like, at the back

Kim Laughton BSc:    'hornet lover goes to Japan to find Japanese hornets, gets killed by Japanese hornets'

Kealan Duffy BSc:     that would be great

Kim Laughton BSc:    it would show that picture in the paper

Kim Laughton BSc:    but in black and white 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and no one would feel sorry for him

Kim Laughton BSc:    maybe his mother, she would have warned him about hornets at a young age

Kim Laughton BSc:    but even she would kind of feel 'I told you so son'

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yea

Kealan Duffy BSc:     there's no real use marketing hornets as peaceful

Kim Laughton BSc:    "Unlike bees, the poison of wasps and hornets is not intended for use against vertebrates (like us) alone. Bees are nectar collecting animals, but wasps and hornets are hunters of insect prey. With several kilograms of honey in an average bees nest, the primary role of the bee sting is to defend the colony against sweet-toothed attackers, ranging from the mouse through badgers to brown bears and humans."

Kim Laughton BSc:    a real a star argument there

Kim Laughton BSc:    'hornets are peaceful; their poison is designed to kill everything, not just us'

Kealan Duffy BSc:     instead you should try and prove that hornet stings cause cancer

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah, or maybe make a phone strap

Kim Laughton BSc:    that keeps hornets away

Kim Laughton BSc:    (but it might cause cancer to the user)

Kim Laughton BSc:    still, which would you prefer? 

Kim Laughton BSc:    a little tumor 

Kim Laughton BSc:    or like

Kim Laughton BSc:    a million Japanese hornets

Kim Laughton BSc:    crawling around your man bits

Kim Laughton BSc:    "This explains the autonomous sting of the honey bee, a bee will lose its sting and its life stinging a vertebrate. What it gains is the injection of additional poison from the poison gland which continues to pump on its release. Wasps and hornets use their sting to kill troublesome insect prey. They cannot afford to be wasteful, as they need to be able to sting repeatedly, injecting just about 0.16 - 0.19 mg poison (oven-dry mass). We, hence, have more to fear in the sting of the bee than the hornet!"

Kim Laughton BSc:    so

Kim Laughton BSc:    right

Kim Laughton BSc:    a bee stings you

Kim Laughton BSc:    and dies

Kim Laughton BSc:    no more bee

Kim Laughton BSc:    but a hornet keeps going at you till you die, with its fuck everything poison 

Kim Laughton BSc:    the peaceful giant 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yes

Kealan Duffy BSc:     im convinced

Kim Laughton BSc:    "However, the hornet sting contains 5% acetylcholine which stimulate pain fibres more than stings of other wasps and bees. So the sting of a hornet may be a little bit more painful."

Kealan Duffy BSc:     the man advertising the peaceful hornet concept

Kealan Duffy BSc:     is in for a life of failure

Kim Laughton BSc:    you know 

Kim Laughton BSc:    if he was killed by japanese hornets

Kim Laughton BSc:    i would be so happy 

Kim Laughton BSc:    it would be the happiest death in history 

Kim Laughton BSc:    probably for him also

Kim Laughton BSc:    he would be finally one with his overlords 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     he wouldn't try and run away

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it might get one of them hurt

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah, he would let them crawl over him while they checked him out 

Kim Laughton BSc:    then one would sting him, just for kicks

Kim Laughton BSc:    maybe a couple more

Kim Laughton BSc:    they would then fly off (in slow motion of course)

Kim Laughton BSc:    he doesn't even seem to mention the Japanese hornet on his site

Kim Laughton BSc:    it's like being nice to the friendly German soldier

Kim Laughton BSc:    while ignoring the SS

Kim Laughton BSc:    just out of sight 

Kim Laughton BSc:    both could kill you, but one could kill you a hell of a lot harder

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I expect Nazis were involved somehow in this story actually

Kealan Duffy BSc:     you don't just go around promoting the peaceful nature of hornets

Kealan Duffy BSc:     some major event involving them..and probably Nazis

Kealan Duffy BSc:     must have resulted in this

Kim Laughton BSc:    I imagine the Nazis would have worshipped them

Kim Laughton BSc:    seems like something they would do

Kim Laughton BSc:    maybe they unleashed the Japanese hornet

Kim Laughton BSc:    like....it was buried for eons

Kim Laughton BSc:    and then, like in Indiana Jones

Kim Laughton BSc:    hmm

Kim Laughton BSc:    actually

Kim Laughton BSc:    shit

Kim Laughton BSc:    Indiana Jones was about hornets

Kim Laughton BSc:    but they just had to find a way to show them

Kim Laughton BSc:    without having hornets fly out of the box

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I think George Lucas or Spielberg should be asked this question

Kealan Duffy BSc:     at some sort of fan event

Kim Laughton BSc:    yes

Kim Laughton BSc:    that would be good

Kim Laughton BSc:    I would like to go to such an even to do that 

Kim Laughton BSc:    but I don't think Lucas leaves his home any more

Kim Laughton BSc:    he just makes statues out of gold and diamonds 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and talks to them

Kim Laughton BSc:    and then he listens to their advice and makes some more star wars stuff 

Kim Laughton BSc:    maybe he went mad because of the hornets 

Kim Laughton BSc:    they are in his mind 

Kim Laughton BSc:    there is enough material for a PhD just in this conversation 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it would be a good PhD, we have considered both sides of the argument

Kim Laughton BSc:    the nutty German

Kim Laughton BSc:    who is dead now

Kim Laughton BSc:    because of hornets 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and we can get some global warming in maybe 

Kim Laughton BSc:    about how it angers the hornets 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and makes them want to kill more

Kim Laughton BSc:    it would be stupid of course, because all they want to do ever is kill

Kim Laughton BSc:    ...but a new angle 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     plus people are more likely to invest with the global warming angle

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah, exactly 

Kim Laughton BSc:    they don't just want to be frightened of hornets 

Kim Laughton BSc:    they want to know that mankind is responsible 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     you don't know how accurate you are

Kealan Duffy BSc:     "The Telegraph reports that global warming has allowed a vicious giant asian hornet called Vespa velutina to spread rapidly in France. The hornets are a huge threat to honey bees."

Kim Laughton BSc:    oh fuck

Kim Laughton BSc:    they beat us to it 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     its only an article

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it lacks the meat

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah, but still

Kim Laughton BSc:    it would be nice to have come up with it first 

Kim Laughton BSc:    we will need to stress the Nazi angle

Kim Laughton BSc:    "Global warming is already making many changes to ecosystems and the economy in Europe. The hornets are expected to eventually make it to Britain."

Kealan Duffy BSc:     oh dear god

Kealan Duffy BSc:     this just won't do

Kim Laughton BSc:    we are so fucked 

Kim Laughton BSc:    I'm going to change my light bulb

Kim Laughton BSc:    for one of those energy efficient ones

Kim Laughton BSc:    do my bit to keep the hornets in France

Kim Laughton BSc:    Nazis started it

Kim Laughton BSc:    but, with my special light bulb

Kim Laughton BSc:    I will live on

Kim Laughton BSc:    but only in really nasty greenish environmentally friendly light

Kim Laughton BSc:    that takes 30 seconds to warm up

Kim Laughton BSc:    still, better that than Japanese hornets

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yep

Kim Laughton BSc:    you don't seem very convinced 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     its true

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I'd probably rather have lots of easy light for years

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and then just get killed by a swarm of hornets

Kealan Duffy BSc:     than deal with an annoying energy efficient light

Kim Laughton BSc:    actually

Kim Laughton BSc:    so would I

Kim Laughton BSc:    I mean, the hornets would be terrible

Kim Laughton BSc:    but they would be sometime in the future 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and I would have nice light now 

Kim Laughton BSc:    which is really what I want 

Kim Laughton BSc:    maybe I will blog this whole conversation

Kim Laughton BSc:    as a PhD work in progress

Kim Laughton BSc:    and be like, one of those twats who blogs messenger conversations

Kealan Duffy BSc:     true

Kealan Duffy BSc:     there seem to be a lot of connections between Nazi and hornet

Kim Laughton BSc:    yes

Kim Laughton BSc:    and global warming 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     this is the three pronged argument

Kim Laughton BSc:    you need that I think

Kim Laughton BSc:    to be sophisticated 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and contemporary 

Kim Laughton BSc:    people don't care enough about Nazis alone these days

Kim Laughton BSc:    maybe 'Nazi' is Latin for hornet?

Kim Laughton BSc:    I think it could be 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     the hornet was a Nazi weapon, that's not very useful, but it does show the Nazis were thinking about hornets at one point

Kim Laughton BSc:    it was always in the back of their mind

Kim Laughton BSc:    but they were to frightened to really confront them

Kim Laughton BSc:    I did a Google image search for 'Nazi' and 'hornet'

Kim Laughton BSc:    and on the second page!

Kim Laughton BSc:    a swastika comes up

Kim Laughton BSc:    this is a strong link 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     undeniably

Kim Laughton BSc:    also on the third

Kim Laughton BSc:    but smaller

Kim Laughton BSc:    still, it's back up evidence

Kealan Duffy BSc:     the front cover of this...project will be awesome

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it will involve a hornet, a swastika

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and some sort of global warming image

Kim Laughton BSc:    I guess the world in the background

Kealan Duffy BSc:     with a swastika

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and a hornet in the middle

Kim Laughton BSc:    you need all the continents in red 

Kim Laughton BSc:    to symbolize the warming

Kim Laughton BSc:    then the big old swastika

Kim Laughton BSc:    and in front of it all, a hornet 

Kim Laughton BSc:    probably holding a lightning bolt 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     awesome

Kealan Duffy BSc:     who wouldn't be intrigued by such an image

Kim Laughton BSc:    George Bush

Kim Laughton BSc:    that's who

Kealan Duffy BSc:     well he'd have to get involved eventually; this is likely to cause great political repercussions

Kim Laughton BSc:    yeah, true

Kim Laughton BSc:    it's always hard to find high res images of things on google

Kim Laughton BSc:    when you want to make covers for Nazi warming hornet PhDs

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yea

Kealan Duffy BSc:     but it will be worth the search

Kim Laughton BSc:    http://www.bgcs.k12.in.us/bghs/library/hornet_logo2.gif

Kim Laughton BSc:    oooh

Kealan Duffy BSc:     nice

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it looks angry too

Kim Laughton BSc:    yes

Kim Laughton BSc:    angry at the world 

Kim Laughton BSc:    and the Nazis

Kim Laughton BSc:    and Lucas

Kim Laughton BSc:    you should be helping find the world, instead of like, preparing to sleep

Kim Laughton BSc:    a high res version of the world

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I was looking for hornets

Kealan Duffy BSc:     but I can do that

Kealan Duffy BSc:     what sort of world

Kim Laughton BSc:    it needs to just be a map I guess

Kim Laughton BSc:    but you know...rounded

Kealan Duffy BSc:     so you want a sphere picture

Kealan Duffy BSc:     rather than an atlas map

Kim Laughton BSc:    I think so

Kim Laughton BSc:    it could just be like....a picture of the world I guess?

Kim Laughton BSc:    with America in front

Kim Laughton BSc:    because America will bare the brunt of the hornets

Kealan Duffy BSc:     http://www.maps-continents.com/maps/north-america.jpg

Kealan Duffy BSc:     may be a bit...crappy

Kim Laughton BSc:    hmm, this planet may be ok

Kim Laughton BSc:    it's coming along nicely

Kim Laughton BSc:    can you find a lightning bolt maybe?

Kim Laughton BSc:    like the Germans might have used

Kealan Duffy BSc:     http://www.iagr.org/images/lightning_bolt.jpg

Kealan Duffy BSc:     like that?

Kim Laughton BSc:    perfect!

Kim Laughton BSc:    now a swastika

Kealan Duffy BSc:     that should be simple enough

Kim Laughton BSc:    yes

Kealan Duffy BSc:            http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Content/Images/Journal/2003

/Winter/GrandCanyon/babylon_swastika-p.png

Kealan Duffy BSc:     that's quite large

Kealan Duffy BSc:     but not as chunky as some

Kealan Duffy BSc:     though that's easily fixed

Kim Laughton BSc:    I think it will be ok

Kim Laughton BSc:    wait

Kim Laughton BSc:    it's the wrong way isn't it?

Kim Laughton BSc:    I'll have to flip it

Kim Laughton BSc:    that would have been embarrassing

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I dunno I tried to load it again and it crashed IE

Kim Laughton BSc:    ...ah

Kealan Duffy BSc:     that's Nazi hate for you

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yea it is the wrong way

Kim Laughton BSc:    would it be wrong to have a yellow swastika?

Kealan Duffy BSc:     dunno, does it lose its impact in yellow?

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I guess that's the only issue

Kealan Duffy BSc:     a swastika must have impact

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and also be recognizable

Kealan Duffy BSc:     as a German swastika

Kim Laughton BSc:    I think it will be in keeping 

Kim Laughton BSc:    oh

Kim Laughton BSc:    shit

Kim Laughton BSc:    Photoshop is like

Kim Laughton BSc:    crashing

Kim Laughton BSc:    just as I'm saving

Kealan Duffy BSc:     noooooo

Kim Laughton BSc:    oh fuck yes

Kim Laughton BSc:    it came back

Kim Laughton BSc:    after like

Kim Laughton BSc:    30 seconds of not responding 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     good

Kim Laughton BSc:    very

Kealan Duffy BSc:     god's throwing every hurdle he can at the creation of this picture

Kim Laughton BSc:    and hornets

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it's bound to stir things up

Kim Laughton BSc:    I couldn't really fit it all together one on top of the other as I planned

Kim Laughton BSc:    but I think it gets across the main points well enough 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yea

Kim Laughton BSc:    I'll make the lightning a little bigger

Kim Laughton BSc:    so it juts off the corner

Kealan Duffy BSc:     the hornet is clearly the main concern

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and he's clearly dominating the earth

Kealan Duffy BSc:     but what is that swastika?

Kealan Duffy BSc:     what could it mean?

Kealan Duffy BSc:     Nazi involvement, backdoor shenanigans

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it makes the swastika look suspicious

Kealan Duffy BSc:     which is good

Kim Laughton BSc:    it will need a title

Kim Laughton BSc:    to go under it all

Kim Laughton BSc:    in big nice type

Kim Laughton BSc:    and the title should have a smaller subtitle under it 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     From Hitler to Hornets: a new perspective on global warming

Kim Laughton BSc:    fuck man, this shit is about hornets

Kim Laughton BSc:    that seems like hornets and Hitler are just bits of the global warming thing

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yea

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I'd like to get the word Nazi in somewhere

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it spruces up all things

Kealan Duffy BSc:     Nazi hornets from hell: the planetary sting

Kealan Duffy BSc:     something more like that

Kealan Duffy BSc:     but not that perhaps

Kim Laughton BSc:    I like the planetary sting

Kim Laughton BSc:    but not so much the hell

Kim Laughton BSc:    and they aren't Nazi hornets remember

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I know

Kealan Duffy BSc:     but it sounded better for that title

Kim Laughton BSc:    you have to put all parts of brain into this

Kim Laughton BSc:    while I see if illustrator can trace the hornet

Kim Laughton BSc:    to make it look nicer

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it's too late for any decent brain work

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I can but try and combine the main words in different ways

Kim Laughton BSc:    shush

Kim Laughton BSc:    we have come so far

Kim Laughton BSc:    …just that little extra push

Kim Laughton BSc:    Hitler didn't say it was too late for world war four

Kealan Duffy BSc:     true

Kim Laughton BSc:    hmm, it looks a little better traced

Kim Laughton BSc:    my computer is thrashing around 

Kim Laughton BSc:    maybe because of hornets

Kim Laughton BSc:    or maybe because I exported the image too high a resolution

Kim Laughton BSc:    Hornets, Nazis and Global Warming: The Truth

Kealan Duffy BSc:     Planetary Sting: How killer hornets and Nazi lust burnt the earth

Kim Laughton BSc:    it's the global warming that causes the hornets to rise again

Kim Laughton BSc:    after the Nazis first awoke them

Kim Laughton BSc:    one has to keep that in mind 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     perhaps 'rise of the hornets' should go in somewhere then

Kim Laughton BSc:    yes, that could work

Kim Laughton BSc:    it doesn't want to sound like a film title also

Kim Laughton BSc:    needs to be academic 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     true

Kim Laughton BSc:    admittedly that's tricky

Kim Laughton BSc:    when you have to include Nazi and hornet

Kealan Duffy BSc:     these are bold words

Kim Laughton BSc:    yes, they will be in bold

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I was easily sucked into B movie style titles

Kim Laughton BSc:    just think how nice your name will look under it 

Kim Laughton BSc:    maybe just 'HORNETS'

Kim Laughton BSc:    in big bold

Kim Laughton BSc:    then the subtitle

Kim Laughton BSc:    that could be nice

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yea, it's difficult otherwise to put the hornet in the front line

Kealan Duffy BSc:     Hornet Invasion: How global warming will give (or just gave) the Nazis their revenge

Kealan Duffy BSc:     The Hornets Sting: How Nazi Hate and global warming doomed the west

Kealan Duffy BSc:     maybe a bit long both times

Kim Laughton BSc:    HORNETS: Discovered by Nazis, Propagated  by Global Warming

Kealan Duffy BSc:     I prefer your angle, it sounds more scientific

Kim Laughton BSc:    I don't like discovered

Kim Laughton BSc:    unleashed?

Kealan Duffy BSc:     that works

Kealan Duffy BSc:     or awoken

Kealan Duffy BSc:     unleashed is probably better

Kim Laughton BSc:    ok, then something like

Kim Laughton BSc:    a study by

Kim Laughton BSc:    and our names

Kim Laughton BSc:    with the right letters

Kim Laughton BSc:    how should the letters be done?

Kim Laughton BSc:    or not a study 

Kim Laughton BSc:    because there wasn't a great deal of that 

Kim Laughton BSc:    more a theory 

Kim Laughton BSc:    so like Kealan Duffy BSc

Kim Laughton BSc:    forget the PhD

Kim Laughton BSc:    this is bigger than a PhD now

Kim Laughton BSc:    it's more of a book I think

Kim Laughton BSc:    but an academic book

Kim Laughton BSc:    that probably not many people would buy 

Kim Laughton BSc:    (although they should)

Kealan Duffy BSc:     it appeals to war enthusiasts

Kealan Duffy BSc:     global warming enthusiasts

Kim Laughton BSc:    true

Kealan Duffy BSc:     and hornet enthusiasts

Kim Laughton BSc:    the bases are covered 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     printing some of the research quotes on the back

Kealan Duffy BSc:     would make it a sure seller

Kim Laughton BSc:    and some review quotes 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     yes, they'd be more suitable than research quotes, things like "red-hot 15cm nail rammed into your body" just ooze appeal

Kealan Duffy BSc:     but again I'm getting away from academics

Kealan Duffy BSc:     "hornets are peaceful, their poison is designed to kill everything, not just us" that would have to get some major coverage

Kim Laughton BSc:    so what instead of 'a study'?

Kim Laughton BSc:    proposal?

Kim Laughton BSc:    thesis?

Kealan Duffy BSc:     all good words, theoretical, dissertation

Kealan Duffy BSc:     not proposal

Kealan Duffy BSc:     essay

Kealan Duffy BSc:     investigative study

Kim Laughton BSc:    hmm

Kim Laughton BSc:    investigative thesis?

Kim Laughton BSc:    I dunno if that even works...like...as English

Kealan Duffy BSc:     nor do I

Kim Laughton BSc:    thesis sounds very academic 

Kim Laughton BSc:    although maybe we want something a little more solid 

Kim Laughton BSc:    like, this isn't just an idea

Kim Laughton BSc:    it's the truth 

Kealan Duffy BSc:     academic discussion? I don't think that combination of words has even been used before

Kealan Duffy BSc:     well it probably has

Kim Laughton BSc:    that's good

Kim Laughton BSc:    something discussion

Kim Laughton BSc:    not academic 

Kim Laughton BSc:    scholarly

Kealan Duffy BSc:     scholarly sounds good

Kim Laughton BSc:    HORNETS
Unleashed by Nazis, Propagated by Global Warming
 
 A scholarly discussion by
 
 Kealan Duffy BSc
 Kim Laughton BSc